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大家好.今天我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了.

琴店的要价是CAD8690. 琴店给的团购价是CAD 8000, 包税, 运到家,10 年保修, 负责第一次调音, 包琴凳.琴是2007 年产的,未开包装的新琴. 请大家集思广议,别拉下什么.
要去买的网友, 速打电话与我联系.我也会给每个跟贴和给我电邮的朋友打电话.

琴店地址;
Thornhill
(West of Yonge Street)
100 Steeles Avenue West
Thornhill, Ontario
L4J 1A1
Phone: (905) 731 7725
Fax: (905) 731-4516
Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

琴店网址

http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

yamaha 公司网址:

http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp
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  • 枫下家园 / 望子成龙 / 有没有最近需要买钢琴的朋友,我想买个雅马哈的.能不能大家组织起来,一起去团购呀.可以和商家多杀杀价. 有什么好的琴行,信誉,价格和琴的质量都好的,推荐一下啊!谢谢.
    • 自己顶顶
      • 正有此想法. 支持!
        • 我也想买一yamaha picno , 大家团购要便易一点,
          • 我找了一写信息
            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1 共1页 复 3 楼主帖分页树展【关闭目录】

            周六(10/21)/新泽西“团购钢琴”:YAMHA U1 (山而王;字348 阅1882 1 2007-10-17 14:09:09
            。 跟大家交代一下。我们16户$4750买了YAMAHA-U1 (山而王;字97 阅265 2007-10-20 21:51:11
            。 瑞兄,是不是在Flemington的那家店 ? (爱莲;字44 阅251 2007-10-17 19:05:39
            。。 是,店里对个人都是5400 (山而王;字0 阅230 2007-10-17 19:23:23



            1周六(10/21)/新泽西“团购钢琴”:YAMHA U1 1 山而王 2007-10-17 14:09:09
            现在我们大概有12个人, 大部分是可怜的家长, 要去团购钢琴。

            目标价位 $4850 (不包括7%消费税)

            雅马哈 YAMAHA U1

            全新,日本产。包送货上门,第一年免费两次调音,YAMAHA琴凳。

            这个价位只有6个以上团购才能拿到。

            该店信誉据说不错。上一次老中团购是25个YAMAHA。
            有兴趣的请短信或留言。

            (我不是托儿。只是想利用团购优势讲价钱。)

            转发 回复 送花↑1 草↓0 收藏→工具


            2跟大家交代一下。我们16户$4750买了YAMAHA-U1 山而王 2007-10-20 21:51:11
            三周后琴到。1个月和6个月后有两次免费调音。
            为免钢琴"托"的嫌疑,我6个月后再给大家汇报一次。HEHE。

            转发 回复 送花↑0 草↓0 收藏→工具


            2瑞兄,是不是在Flemington的那家店 ? 爱莲 2007-10-17 19:05:39
            5年前我们买的时候是$4800,含税!长得好快呀!

            转发 回复 送花↑0 草↓0 收藏→工具


            3是,店里对个人都是5400 山而王 2007-10-17 19:23:23更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • INFORMATION AGAIN
            !!!!急问!!!!!有近期要买48寸的YAMAHA和KAWAI新钢琴的朋友吗?我们几个朋友合伙买琴,可以谈到多一点的折扣.目前已谈到
            by doreimi (王琳) at 2007.1.22 13:17
            KAWAI K3: 原价(不包税): 9830$; ON SALE价(不包税):6875$.
            现在谈到:6600$,包税+十年保修+送琴+一次调音,但必须8人以上买.

            YAMAHA U1: ON SALE价(不包税):8800$.
            现在谈到:7700$,包税+十年保修+送琴+一次调音,但必须3人以上买.

            KAWAI我们已经有6人,看还有没有2位朋友来参加,请从速,商店要求今晚给他答复,但我猜想只要这几天凑够了都可以吧,但能快则快,最好尽早回复他.
            如果这八个人凑不够.YAMAHA我们有两人了,看谁还想买,这个只要有三人就可以.也请从速.
            有意者请致电:416-5192279.
            谢谢!
            • 感谢Seneca666 找了不少信息. 两贴的价格差了不少. YAMAHA U1 从$4750 到 $7700. 如果你决定要买的话,请通知一声. 我要去旅行. 一个星期后回来.
        • Please includ e me. I want to buy one. Thanks!
    • 买日货这种事,偷偷的就行了,别大张旗鼓的。
    • 我想买个电钢琴。
      • 我朋友在COSTCO买的雅马哈的电钢琴很好,价格是1000刀,现在他买的那款已经只要800多了.
        • do you want to buy a second piano or branfd new piano? I get some information already and if mor people want to by Yamaha we can gooup buy.
          • I think the more people to buy the more cheaper for the price
            • I want to buy YAMHA piano. Can you include me. Thanks!
    • 我们也参加一个,我们现在正在找好的钢琴.如果可以的话请通知一声.非常感谢
      • 我是要给孩子买新的日本yamaha琴, 团购要便易, 大家一起去谈, 如果有人要买, 咱们就一起去谈,买旧琴就别找我.买琴之前, 我要去见一下多伦多yamaha company的公司的经理,以免被琴店骗了.
        • 请看我的问题,准备充份, 整明白再下手.
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛在线急问, 买新刚琴(Yamaha)是不是都带着原包装? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 20:27 (#4225028@0) Reply
          yamaha代理说运来时不带包装, 那是不是要掉包? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 20:30 (#4225037@0) Reply
          大家买yamaha新钢琴难到都不带包装吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 20:33 (#4225045@0) Reply
          可以查系列号啊 -makefunnny(makefunny); 1.29 20:35 (#4225051@0) Reply
          Toronto 三个yamaha代理可靠吗? 有人在那买过琴吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 20:38 (#4225055@0) Reply
          系列好怎么查? 谢谢 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 20:39 (#4225063@0) Reply
          google, yamaha piano serial number -makefunnny(makefunny); 1.29 20:49 (#4225075@0) Reply
          google 上也找不到, 能给个连接吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:14 (#4225146@0) Reply
          买新刚琴都不带包装吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:15 (#4225154@0) Reply
          买新钢琴难到都不带包装吗?为甚么? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:34 (#4225237@0) Reply
          我们买的电子钢琴,带包装 -william571818(ww); 1.29 21:28 (#4225207@0) Reply
          谢谢你 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:48 (#4225281@0) Reply
          如果是买yamaha的新琴,当然是原包装送到家里,然后在家门外拆卸包装的;否则就可能买到demo或者别人的退货;你怎么知道不是原包装呢?对方打电话先通知你了?如果是,你觉得正常吗?他门大电话通知你的目的就是想获得你的事先认可。不要! -dreamdaily(希望有梦); 1.29 21:28 (64 bytes. #4225208@0)
          感谢你, 我明白了.再次谢谢 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:37 (#4225249@0) Reply
          请问您是在那个琴店买的? 我也去那买. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:39 (#4225256@0) Reply
          哪个店买不重要:只要是买的brand new新琴肯定就是原包装的。 -dreamdaily(希望有梦); 1.29 21:52 (#4225293@0) Reply
          哪个店买不重要:只要是买的brand new的新琴就一定是原包装的。 -dreamdaily(希望有梦); 1.29 21:53 (#4225295@0) Reply
          谢谢 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 22:05 (#4225331@0) Reply
          请问大家买yamaha钢琴都在那个店买呀? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 21:55 (#4225301@0) Reply
          steels & Yonge -william571818(ww); 1.29 21:59 (#4225312@0) Reply
          请问是那家yamaha专卖店吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 22:02 (#4225317@0) Reply
          是专卖店,据说他们也回收旧钢琴。 -william571818(ww); 1.29 22:11 (#4225350@0) Reply
          十分感谢 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 22:19 (#4225386@0) Reply
          十分感谢 -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 22:06 (#4225336@0) Reply
          感谢今天帮我回贴的所有网友, 晚安. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.29 22:15 (#4225367@0) Reply
          我找了yamaha 多伦多公司: 他们说不带包装送给客户的,都不是新琴, 全是二手祸. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.30 21:43 (#4227875@0) Reply
          有黑心店用旧琴当新琴卖,千万要小心. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.30 21:51 (#4227886@0) Reply
          你指带什么原包装啊?木箱?胶纸?我的新琴送到时,什么包装都没有。新钢琴的各部件在仓库时是有包装,但琴拼装好送到家后就应该没有包装了。新钢琴不是整台进口,整台运输的,旧琴也许是。我从未担心过这个问题,只要琴是从正规DEALER买的。 -xan(hoothoot); 1.31 14:15 (#4229445@0) Reply
          新钢琴不是整台进口, 不对吧, 你看:如果是买yamaha的新琴,当然是原包装送到家里,然后在家门外拆卸包装的;否则就可能买到demo或者别人的退货;你怎么知道不是原包装呢? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.31 19:40 (#4230233@0) Reply
          你怎么知到新钢琴不是整台进口? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.31 19:42 (#4230238@0) Reply
          正规DEALER? 是那家? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.31 19:47 (#4230252@0) Reply
          新钢琴的各部件在仓库时是有包装? 那他为甚么把新琴的包装不当你面拆开?不是说新琴都是在日本制造的吗, 从没听说在加拿大再组装. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.31 21:51 (#4230542@0) Reply
          不带包装,你买的是二手琴吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 1.31 21:54 (#4230549@0) Reply
          若你想肯定买的琴是NEW IN BOX,你可在送货前跟卖方约定好,跟他们一起亲自到YAMAHA piano warehouse开箱检验,然后记下琴的SERIAL #,这样就sure琴是全新的。其实全新钢琴跟全新车一样,不存在大的缺陷,牌子型号对了就别太操心[包装]这类鸡毛蒜皮了,因为还有保修嘛。 -xan(hoothoot); 2.1 23:42 (#4233877@0) Reply
          你说的很对, 但是现在琴行说半个月以后才给琴的原产地证书和琴号的书面证明, 而且说yamaha 新琴运到家都没有包装,而且也不让到仓库看所喂的拆包装的过程. 这不是明显想掉包吗? -etobicoke666(seneca666); 2.2 07:42 (#4234130@0) Reply
          那你就继续寻找能让你全满意的DEALER不就行啦。不过小声提醒一句,千挑万拣出来的LG/LP都不会100% 满意 D。 -xan(hoothoot); 2.2 21:41 (#4235101@0) Reply
          与加拿大yamaha公司约好,下周去见他们的CEO.I can get all information that I meed to know. -etobicoke666(seneca666); 2.2 22:19 (#4235192@0) Reply
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        • if you want to buy UI yamaha new brend piano, please ctc me and we go to dealet BARGAIN to them.
    • 我也想买。 算我一个吧, 我的联系电话是:647 836 8106,新的琴啊。
      • I'll go to dealer next week and I'll contact you.
        • 我需要把一些细节整明白再去买,就象买车一样以免上当,毕竟是8000多加币,到时我会发贴在这里.
          • 有一点不明白,怎么孩子的钢琴教师总是推荐买旧的呢?旧的实在是不敢买,都 几十年的了还能比新的好?我真不相信,你们也有这经验吗?谢谢
            • 和旧车一样保值
              • 看他们说的那样,比旧车可保值多了,哪个25年旧车能卖到原价的一半的?多伦多旧钢琴市场太乱了。托也很多,真的看着怕。杂牌子新的怕用一年就坏。唉。
        • 我在网上看dealer在士家堡town center. 不在youny, 我想快点买,你现在联系了几个啦 ?
        • Please count me in as well.
    • YAMAHA /KAWAI 随便哪个都行,我不挑的,你们有没有问到价格的呢?请PM下,谢谢
      • 要买yamaha新琴U-1的, 愿易团购的请与我联系,请留下你的电话。超过三家以上能省几百,买的人越多,谈判的本钱越大。买旧琴的别找我。please cnotact me asap.
        • 你问的新琴亚马哈U-1的要多少钱?
          • 听说是7000+税前
            • 请看
              !!!!急问!!!!!有近期要买48寸的YAMAHA和KAWAI新钢琴的朋友吗?我们几个朋友合伙买琴,可以谈到多一点的折扣.目前已谈到
              by doreimi (王琳) at 2007.1.22 13:17
              KAWAI K3: 原价(不包税): 9830$; ON SALE价(不包税):6875$.
              现在谈到:6600$,包税+十年保修+送琴+一次调音,但必须8人以上买.

              YAMAHA U1: ON SALE价(不包税):8800$.
              现在谈到:7700$,包税+十年保修+送琴+一次调音,但必须3人以上买.

              KAWAI我们已经有6人,看还有没有2位朋友来参加,请从速,商店要求今晚给他答复,但我猜想只要这几天凑够了都可以吧,但能快则快,最好尽早回复他.
              如果这八个人凑不够.YAMAHA我们有两人了,看谁还想买,这个只要有三人就可以.也请从速.
              有意者请致电:416-5192279.
              谢谢!
              • 请看
                我也是在一边学,一边砍价,但我只想说,我看了几家旧琴行,我劝大家千万别买旧琴,真骗人呀.40年的琴,他们做手脚, 改续列号,连钢板都换了,我如果不去调查,是不会知道的.
                yamaha Toronto company,我也联系了,最后,我决定买新琴.想买的就跟我连系,有很多骗子,包扩很多教钢琴的老师,他们和旧琴行沟搭.要去yamaha特许店.
                • Hellow, I send my tel number to all of you , already, if you want to group buy, please call me. we make appointment with the Yamaha dealer and we talk to them after long weekend. I am david.
                  • 我拿去年王琳老师买琴的贴子做参考,大家也帮忙找参照价格. 电话联系.
                    • 我给在这里跟贴的要买新琴的朋友都回了,请与我电话联系.
                      • 有你电话了。谢谢
                      • Please PM your phone number. I want to buy. Thanks!
                    • I want to buy, pleae PM your phone number, thanks. Can we expect $4750~4850 as your previous information?
                      • 你报的这价格可买珠江新钢琴 或yamaha二手琴
                        • 请算我一个.
                          • 我给你电话号码了请查收
                        • 这个价格是来自你的帖子:“跟大家交代一下。我们16户$4750买了YAMAHA-U1 (山而王;字97 阅265 2007-10-20 21:51:11"
                          • please see attd web in USA
                            http://www.noldespianos.com/about.html

                            http://www.noldespianos.com/about.html

                            http://www.pianostoresusa.com/city/NewJersey.html
                          • 到处都是陷阱,法律是公正的可是也很无奈。
                            由於买了劣质钢琴,根据法律半年内可以退回,但需去小额法庭,要求做公司检索,赫然发现那个钢琴店根本没有注册在所谓的公司名下,更发现明报广告,公司名已改,再查钢琴店也不在其名下。咨询律师被告知即使官司赢了也很难拿到钱,要等八个月才开庭。不良商人可以钻这种空子,先申请公司,看有麻烦就破产,再叫另外人申请新公司,生意照做,但以前的责任义务都不用承担,加拿大申请公司很方便。但消费者就吃亏了,虽然有所谓的法律保护。我还傻呼呼一步步照规矩来投诉,赫然发现几张丑陋的脸正在黑暗中露出讥讽的笑,张开血盆大口骗取我们的血汗钱。
                            这么晚了我还是不能入睡,中国人为什么要坑自己人啊,大家都很不容易,更何况钢琴是为了孩子学习。
                            “出了国还找中国人干什么!”对啊,只能怪自己,贪便宜,自找麻烦。

                            注:如果要买琴,先在网上查一下“import used YAMAHA piano”,定会增长知识,收获不小。千万不要这种从日本进口的旧琴。
                            • http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp http://yamaha.ca/index.jsp
                              • 谢谢
                            • If U1 is only $4750 in US, I do not understand why you are willing to spend 7-8k on it here.
        • 一直在关注,看了很多你提供的有用信息,不知后续如何,买好了么?谢谢!
          • 这九 位朋有,请速与我联系, 要真买yamaha brand new U1 的话.
            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛这九 位朋有,请速与我联系, 要真买yamaha brand new U1 的话.

            如果你要参与团购的话,速PM 我,我会把我的电话给你.

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            今天我去了琴店, 老板不在,周二定见面的时间.

            我现在只有罗先生和longlian18303(longlian)两个人的电话. 其他要真买琴的人速与我联系.打电话给我.

            我想与琴店老板约下周六或周日中午见面, 讲价,签合同, 付定金, 琴店报价$8699. 大家一起去讲价,
            争取讲下去$一千多才好.

            最主要的是买到日本产的新琴而不受骗:
            我会把yamaha公司发给我的电邮转给你们.
            我建仪合同中要包括首付款仅10%.
            原包装送到家,
            在买琴的家门口打开包装,
            运输公司去yamaha公司提琴的那天, 有我们的人在仓库一起提新琴,以免被掉包.
            包新琴凳,
            10 年保修
            新琴负责调音,
            出具yamaha公司的原产地证书, 出厂地点及日其. 序列好与yamaha 公司提公的证具一样.
            如保证达到以上条款, 并且是Japan, yamaha 公司made in Japan. 我们再付另外90& 余款. 并保证琴的出
            厂时间是2007年6月至2007年12月.

            琴店地址;
            Thornhill
            (West of Yonge Street)
            100 Steeles Avenue West
            Thornhill, Ontario
            L4J 1A1
            Phone: (905) 731 7725
            Fax: (905) 731-4516
            Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

            琴店网址

            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

            yamaha 公司网址:

            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
            • PMed you my phone number....
              • I get your tel, ok.
          • I pm you ,already. david
          • If you want to buy, call me .
            • If you want to group buy, please call me asap. david
              • please contace me asap if you want to buy new piano
                mark80(longwalking)
                cmm
                yysong(yysong)
                snowykitty
                bomi
                longlian18303
                siyicha(chayisi)
                zzychz
                dr.pop
                shushumami
                bei2004(yaya)
                mark80



                The below friends give me you tel already:

                MR.Luo
                Longlian18303
                CMM
                YYSONG
                SIYICHA
                • 各位网友, 下周六或周日中午去杀价,速与我联系.把你的电话pm给我.
                  • I wants to buy too. Can you pm me please?
                    • PM you done,please send you tel to me asap. david
                      • get your tel already, Regards. david
                        • 所有跟贴的要买新琴的网友,点请尽快跟我联系,pm 你的电话.
                          • 所有跟贴的要买新琴的网友,点请尽快跟我联系,pm 你的电话.
                            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛今天我去了琴店, 老板不在,周二定见面的时间.

                            我现在只有罗先生和longlian18303(longlian)两个人的电话. 其他要真买琴的人速与我联系.打电话给我.

                            我想与琴店老板约下周六或周日中午见面, 讲价,签合同, 付定金, 琴店报价$8699. 大家一起去讲价,
                            争取讲下去$一千多才好.

                            最主要的是买到日本产的新琴而不受骗:
                            我会把yamaha公司发给我的电邮转给你们.
                            我建仪合同中要包括首付款仅10%.
                            原包装送到家,
                            在买琴的家门口打开包装,
                            运输公司去yamaha公司提琴的那天, 有我们的人在仓库一起提新琴,以免被掉包.
                            包新琴凳,
                            10 年保修
                            新琴负责调音,
                            出具yamaha公司的原产地证书, 出厂地点及日其. 序列好与yamaha 公司提公的证具一样.
                            如保证达到以上条款, 并且是Japan, yamaha 公司made in Japan. 我们再付另外90& 余款. 并保证琴的出
                            厂时间是2007年6月至2007年12月.

                            琴店地址;
                            Thornhill
                            (West of Yonge Street)
                            100 Steeles Avenue West
                            Thornhill, Ontario
                            L4J 1A1
                            Phone: (905) 731 7725
                            Fax: (905) 731-4516
                            Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                            琴店网址

                            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

                            yamaha 公司网址:

                            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp

                            还有:

                            琴店包税, 负责运输.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                            • Please PM me if you want to group bu Yamaha U 1 asap
                              • 最主要的是买到日本产的新琴而不受骗:
                                我会把yamaha公司发给我的电邮转给你们.
                                我建仪合同中要包括首付款仅10%.
                                原包装送到家,
                                在买琴的家门口打开包装,
                                运输公司去yamaha公司提琴的那天, 有我们的人在仓库一起提新琴,以免被掉包.
                                包新琴凳,
                                10 年保修
                                新琴负责调音,
                                出具yamaha公司的原产地证书, 出厂地点及日其. 序列好与yamaha 公司提公的证具一样.
                                如保证达到以上条款, 并且是Japan, yamaha 公司made in Japan. 我们再付另外90% 余款. 并保证琴的出
                                厂时间是2007年6月至2007年12月.

                                琴店地址;
                                Thornhill
                                (West of Yonge Street)
                                100 Steeles Avenue West
                                Thornhill, Ontario
                                L4J 1A1
                                Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                                琴店网址

                                http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

                                yamaha 公司网址:

                                http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp
                                <本文发表于: 相约加拿大:枫下论坛 www.rolia.net/forum >
                                • 请问大家这个周六或周日是否有时间去琴店?
                                  • I can go on late Saturday afternoon(after 5pm)and early sunday morning(before 11am). Please call me.
                                    • 大家好,定于下周六. 三月一日下午2:00 去琴店定价钱和确定合同条款, 要买琴的务必到场. 我会电话和电邮通知每一个人.
                                      琴店地址;
                                      Thornhill
                                      (West of Yonge Street)
                                      100 Steeles Avenue West
                                      Thornhill, Ontario
                                      L4J 1A1
                                      Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                      Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                      Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com
                                      • 我会给大家打电话确定去琴店的时间, 请大家看一下以上我发的那些信息,集思广议, 人多智慧多.
                                        • 大家好.今天我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了.
                                          琴店的要价是CAD8690. 琴店给的团购价是CAD 8000, 包税, 运到家,10 年保修, 负责第一次调音, 包琴凳.琴是2007 年产的,未开包装的新琴. 请大家集思广议,别拉下什么.
                                          要去买的网友, 速打电话与我联系.我也会给每个跟贴和给我电邮的朋友打电话.

                                          琴店地址;
                                          Thornhill
                                          (West of Yonge Street)
                                          100 Steeles Avenue West
                                          Thornhill, Ontario
                                          L4J 1A1
                                          Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                          Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                          Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                                          琴店网址

                                          http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

                                          yamaha 公司网址:

                                          http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp
                                        • 买钢琴声音最重要,你们只注重没开过包装,如果打开后声音不好,或者触键的感觉不好,再便宜也白搭。
                                          • 非常感谢这为网友的友好提醒.
                                            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1,. 买雅马哈新琴,不是从琴店提货, 而是从雅马哈公司的多伦多的仓库提货,凡是从琴店提货的都是展试用的或旧琴.
                                            2, 你说的雅马哈新琴音色的问题, 每一台琴都不一样,就跟每个人一样, 没有完全相同的人.
                                            3.如果琴键不好使, 对不起, 拒收.
                                            4. 如果在仓库打开包装, 也仅仅是由琴店受权去提货的货运公司打开木包装.
                                            非常感谢这为网友的友好提醒.感谢你.
                                            有一位跟我联系过, 并想一起团购的网友, 在另外一个城市, 周日买了一台U-1,是2006年产的, 是琴店展试用的,价钱是CAD7000+TAX, 也并没偏易, 只是省了CAD200的运费.
                                            请团购的朋友一起行动, ,集思广议, 人多智慧多.

                                            我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了.
                                            琴店的要价是CAD8690. 琴店给的团购价是CAD 8000, 包税, 运到家,10 年保修, 负责第一次调音, 包琴凳.琴是2007 年产的,未开包装的新琴. 请大家集思广议,别拉下什么.
                                            要去买的网友, 速打电话与我联系.我也会给每个跟贴和给我电邮的朋友打电话.

                                            琴店地址;
                                            Thornhill
                                            (West of Yonge Street)
                                            100 Steeles Avenue West
                                            Thornhill, Ontario
                                            L4J 1A1
                                            Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                            Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                            Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                                            琴店网址

                                            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

                                            yamaha 公司网址:

                                            http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                            • 大家好.今天我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了. Please the below letter from YAMAHA CANADA OFFICE
                                              本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛The below web friends , please well noted accordingly.
                                              mark80(longwalking) ;yysong(yysong) ; snowykitty; longlian18303 ; zzychz
                                              cmm ; shushumami ; bei2004(yaya); mark80; : bomi ; siyicha(chayisi) ;
                                              dr.pop ; cmm(123) ; hmm2(hmm) ; bomi(bomi) , foreveronmyownfee;
                                              multiwood(multiwood)

                                              琴店的要价是CAD8690. 琴店给的团购价是CAD 8000, 包税, 运到家,10 年保修, 负责第一次调音, 包琴凳.琴是2007 年产的,未开包装的新琴. 请大家集思广议,别拉下什么.
                                              要去买的网友, 速打电话与我联系.我也会给每个跟贴和给我电邮的朋友打电话.

                                              琴店地址;
                                              Thornhill
                                              (West of Yonge Street)
                                              100 Steeles Avenue West
                                              Thornhill, Ontario
                                              L4J 1A1
                                              Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                              Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                              Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                                              琴店网址
                                              http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp
                                              yamaha 公司网址:
                                              http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp

                                              Please the below letter from YAMAHA CANADA OFFICE

                                              Dear Mr. Li,
                                              I've been asked by Mr. Ales to respond to your question.
                                              1) A piano is a musical instrument with over 8000 moving parts. Many of which are made of maleable materials such as wood. Because of this, it takes some time before the piano actually settles and requires some technical preparation. This is best done at the dealership.
                                              In Europe, all pianos (all major manufacturers) are unpacked before they reach the dealership. US manufactured pianos are not even boxed from the factory for US delivery to delivery dealerships. However they are boxed for shipping to Canada.
                                              Having said all that, some dealerships have allowed some customers to receive pianos in their original shipping crate. This is a practice we do not encourage because the product would not be in their optimum performance state. However, Yamaha does have one of the best reputations for high quality instruments that require less pre-delivery technical preparation than other manufacturers.
                                              Also, every piano has a different personality. This is an emotional investment and it is encouraged to consumers that they try out the piano that they will like to purchase. This can only be done at the dealership. Similiarly, one would need to test-drive a car before they purchase their new vehicle.
                                              2) Every piano has a serial number on the plate. In the case of the U1, it is located in the upper right hand corner of the plate.
                                              In other words once you receive it, you'll have it. If you buy a particular piano by trying it out at the dealership, you will have the serial number automatically as it is located directly on the piano. If you buy a piano without trying it, you will get the serial number only when you receive the product.
                                              3) This is true. Yamaha Canada is a wholesaler and distribution company. In fact the only piano company with a distribution office in Canada. Other manufacturers are located in the US or aboad. We sell only to authorized piano dealers in Canada and not directly to the public.

                                              4) If you buy a U1 this year, it would have been manufactured in late 2007. There is approximately a 4-6 month leatime from beginning of production to final destination in Canada. The U1 is a popular model therefore we cycle new product through all the time.
                                              5) These questions can only be answered by the dealerships. We do not own or have control over their business practices. We only authorize them to sell our product.
                                              I hope our answers have met your satisfaction.
                                              Regards,
                                              Jun Fujimoto, B.Mus. M.Mus, A.R.C.T
                                              Piano Marketing Specialist / Artist and Institution Relations
                                              PIANO DEPARTMENT, MI GROUP
                                              YAMAHA CANADA MUSIC Ltd.
                                              135 Milner Avenue, Toronto, ON, CANADA M1S 3R1
                                              T. 647-426-4218 / F. 416-292-0732
                                              E. jfujimoto@yamaha.ca
                                              W. www.yamaha.ca

                                              > I want to buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano for my daughter, but I know
                                              there
                                              > are two many piano dealer in second hands yamaha piano as a brand new
                                              > piano selling to customer. This situation especially in Chinese
                                              > community. Last two weeks I went to a piano dealer, they give me some
                                              > information and I want to disscuss with you.
                                              >
                                              > 1. The dealer said there is no any packing for a new piano when the
                                              > piano delivery to customer, and they said all brand new
                                              > yamaha piano must break down packing at yamaha warehouse. For this
                                              > point, I was very astonished and shock.Changing a
                                              > position to think, if Oales, you are a customer buy a brand new
                                              > yamaha piano, but the dealer deliver to a piano without
                                              > any packing, how do you think? And do you think they sned a brend
                                              > new piano or second hands piano or demo piano?
                                              >
                                              > 2. The dealer said I can not get the series number when the piano
                                              > delivery to my home, yamaha Toronto company will give me
                                              > the series number and certificated of orign after 15 days. For this
                                              > point, I totally do not understand why I buy a new
                                              > piano I can not know the series number beofre the piano delivery to
                                              > my home?
                                              >
                                              > 3.The dealer said customer can not pick up and delivery piano from
                                              > yamaha company directly, and I think they are afraid
                                              > customer get correct information from yamaha Toronto company. Here
                                              > is Canada, customers haver their right to know yamaha
                                              > piano correct information. They set a mysterious vile for customer.
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > 4.If I buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano this month, which year the
                                              > piano make in? It is made in Japan or other country?
                                              >
                                              > 5. If I buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano, how much deposit at least I
                                              > need to pay for the dealer and how many days will
                                              > delivery to my home?
                                              Jun Fujimoto, B.Mus. M.Mus, A.R.C.T
                                              Piano Marketing Specialist / Artist and Institution Relations
                                              PIANO DEPARTMENT, MI GROUP
                                              YAMAHA CANADA MUSIC Ltd.
                                              135 Milner Avenue, Toronto, ON, CANADA M1S 3R1
                                              T. 647-426-4218 / F. 416-292-0732
                                              E. jfujimoto@yamaha.ca
                                              W. www.yamaha.ca更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                              • please well noted.
                                                • 大家好.今天我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了. Please the below letter from YAMAHA CANADA OFFICE
                                                  The below web friends , please well noted accordingly.


                                                  mark80(longwalking) ;yysong(yysong) ; snowykitty; longlian18303 ; zzychz
                                                  cmm ; shushumami ; bei2004(yaya); mark80; : bomi ; siyicha(chayisi) ;
                                                  dr.pop ; cmm(123) ; hmm2(hmm) ; bomi(bomi) , foreveronmyownfee;
                                                  multiwood(multiwood)
                                            • 为什么要买未开包装的新琴? 未知数太多。 钢琴一定要试,才能定出好坏,这就是为什么要挑的道理了。。。
                                              • wo test for you?
                                                本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛who test foy you?
                                                Do you thik you pick up the brand-new piano at the Dealer?

                                                No.


                                                If you buy a Brand-new piano, the dealer authorization a trucker conpany pick up and delivery to customers directly. You do not pick up the piano in the piano shop.If you pick up
                                                the piano from the shop, that must be return or used piano. If you buy a Yamaha
                                                piano , must pick up at Yamaha Toronto warehouse. please remember that is Yahama
                                                policy.

                                                When the trucker company go to warehouse pick up, the dealer does not go to with them and nobody test for you in the warehouse.

                                                why we need trucker break down packing cover case in our home and not in the warehouse?

                                                Due to too many dealers in a used piano instead a brand new to cheatete,I invested two month, I know how to do we can at most protect ourselves.

                                                If yo want to know the dealers in Chinese circles how to cheating customers, please call me and I let you know what they do and how they do in Toronto, and I let you know how many people were cheated in Toronto when thery are buying a piano in a chinese dealers.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                                • who test foy you
                                                  本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛If you buy a Brand-new piano, the dealer authorization a trucker conpany pick up and delivery to customers directly. You do not pick up the piano in the piano shop.If you pick up
                                                  the piano from the shop, that must be return or used piano. If you buy a Yamaha
                                                  piano , must pick up at Yamaha Toronto warehouse. please remember that is Yahama
                                                  policy.

                                                  When the trucker company go to warehouse pick up, the dealer does not go to with them and nobody test for you in the warehouse.

                                                  why we need trucker break down packing cover case in our home and not in the warehouse?

                                                  Due to too many dealers in a used piano instead a brand new to cheatete,I invested two month, I know how to do we can at most protect ourselves.

                                                  If yo want to know the dealers in Chinese circles how to cheating customers, please call me and I let you know what they do and how they do in Toronto, and I let you know how many people were cheated in Toronto when thery are buying a piano in a chinese dealers.
                                                  <本文发表于: 相约加拿大:枫下论坛 www.rolia.net/forum >更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                              • Excuse, I want to know you are a Chinese dealer and you totally do not know ? You can select one by one if you want to buy a used piano in a chinese dealer. please call me asap and I explain to you in case you are cheted when you buy.
                                              • 你说的是买旧琴吧.如果是去琴店想买新琴,你要挑也只是挑MODEL而不会是就买那FLOOR MODEL.这跟买新车试车一样.
                                                • siyicha(chayisi). Your issure is right
                                                  本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear all:

                                                  In Yamaha dealer, only modal show exhibation piano there.
                                                  If you like buy this kinds of piano, dealer send a authorization to the moving company and
                                                  the moving company pick up and delivery the Brand -new piano to customers.

                                                  The piano delivery to you home ,customers have two choices: with packing case or not with
                                                  packing case. The choice up to you. but I select with case.

                                                  If you buy a used piano, all waiting sale piano are all in the uesd piano dealer, you can try, select,
                                                  exam, test ,even very picky choice, and you can invite you child's piano teacher help you. Finally, you buy a used piano and the dealer changed series number for this piano already.

                                                  It is means : even this used piano marked 10 years ago or 20 years ago made in Japan.
                                                  But this piano change the series number by the dealer, actually, this piano is made forty years ago, the series number is correct, but the real piano perraps is playing in a Japap family, You think you buy a 20 years piano, but this piano is forty years ago.

                                                  I went to 5 used piano dealer and I know something about the used piano dealer.

                                                  Buy a brand-new piano and used piano, this is up to you and your family's fiance.

                                                  If you want to know more, please post you issue here and I explain all of I know.

                                                  After went to the 5 used piano dealer, I deciede go to buy a brand-new piano.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                                  • can u tell us what is not good to buy a used one?
                                                • PLEASE SEE LETTER FROM YAMAHA TORONTO OFFICE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW YAMAHA MORE
                                                  本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear Mr. Li,

                                                  I've been asked by Mr. Ales to respond to your question.

                                                  1) A piano is a musical instrument with over 8000 moving parts. Many of which are made of maleable materials such as wood. Because of this, it takes some time before the piano actually settles and requires some technical preparation. This is best done at the dealership.

                                                  In Europe, all pianos (all major manufacturers) are unpacked before they reach the dealership. US manufactured pianos are not even boxed from the factory for US delivery to delivery dealerships. However they are boxed for shipping to Canada.

                                                  Having said all that, some dealerships have allowed some customers to receive pianos in their original shipping crate. This is a practice we do not encourage because the product would not be in their optimum performance state. However, Yamaha does have one of the best reputations for high quality instruments that require less pre-delivery technical preparation than other manufacturers.

                                                  Also, every piano has a different personality. This is an emotional investment and it is encouraged to consumers that they try out the piano that they will like to purchase. This can only be done at the dealership. Similiarly, one would need to test-drive a car before they purchase their new vehicle.

                                                  2) Every piano has a serial number on the plate. In the case of the U1, it is located in the upper right hand corner of the plate.

                                                  In other words once you receive it, you'll have it. If you buy a particular piano by trying it out at the dealership, you will have the serial number automatically as it is located directly on the piano. If you buy a piano without trying it, you will get the serial number only when you receive the product.

                                                  3) This is true. Yamaha Canada is a wholesaler and distribution company. In fact the only piano company with a distribution office in Canada. Other manufacturers are located in the US or aboad. We sell only to authorized piano dealers in Canada and not directly to the public.


                                                  4) If you buy a U1 this year, it would have been manufactured in late 2007. There is approximately a 4-6 month leatime from beginning of production to final destination in Canada. The U1 is a popular model therefore we cycle new product through all the time.

                                                  5) These questions can only be answered by the dealerships. We do not own or have control over their business practices. We only authorize them to sell our product.

                                                  I hope our answers have met your satisfaction.

                                                  Regards,
                                                  Jun Fujimoto, B.Mus. M.Mus, A.R.C.T
                                                  Piano Marketing Specialist / Artist and Institution Relations
                                                  PIANO DEPARTMENT, MI GROUP
                                                  YAMAHA CANADA MUSIC Ltd.
                                                  135 Milner Avenue, Toronto, ON, CANADA M1S 3R1
                                                  T. 647-426-4218 / F. 416-292-0732
                                                  E. jfujimoto@yamaha.ca
                                                  W. www.yamaha.ca



                                                  > I want to buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano for my dayghter, but I know
                                                  there
                                                  > are two many piano dealer in second hands yamaha piano as a brand new
                                                  > piano selling to customer. This situation especially in Chinese
                                                  > community. Last two weeks I went to a piano dealer, they give me some
                                                  > information and I want to disscuss with you.
                                                  >
                                                  > 1. The dealer said there is no any packing for a new piano when the
                                                  > piano delivery to customer, and they said all brand new
                                                  > yamaha piano must break down packing at yamaha warehouse. For this
                                                  > point, I was very astonished and shock.Changing a
                                                  > position to think, if Oales, you are a customer buy a brand new
                                                  > yamaha piano, but the dealer deliver to a piano without
                                                  > any packing, how do you think? And do you think they sned a brend
                                                  > new piano or second hands piano or demo piano?
                                                  >
                                                  > 2. The dealer said I can not get the series number when the piano
                                                  > delivery to my home, yamaha Toronto company will give me
                                                  > the series number and certificated of orign after 15 days. For this
                                                  > point, I totally do not understand why I buy a new
                                                  > piano I can not know the series number beofre the piano delivery to
                                                  > my home?
                                                  >
                                                  > 3.The dealer said customer can not pick up and delivery piano from
                                                  > yamaha company directly, and I think they are afraid
                                                  > customer get correct information from yamaha Toronto company. Here
                                                  > is Canada, customers haver their right to know yamaha
                                                  > piano correct information. They set a mysterious vile for customer.
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > 4.If I buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano this month, which year the
                                                  > piano make in? It is made in Japan or other country?
                                                  >
                                                  > 5. If I buy a brand new U-1 yamaha piano, how much deposit at least I
                                                  > need to pay for the dealer and how many days will
                                                  > delivery to my home?

                                                  Jun Fujimoto, B.Mus. M.Mus, A.R.C.T
                                                  Piano Marketing Specialist / Artist and Institution Relations
                                                  PIANO DEPARTMENT, MI GROUP
                                                  YAMAHA CANADA MUSIC Ltd.
                                                  135 Milner Avenue, Toronto, ON, CANADA M1S 3R1
                                                  T. 647-426-4218 / F. 416-292-0732
                                                  E. jfujimoto@yamaha.ca
                                                  W. www.yamaha.ca更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                                  • 大家好.今天我和琴店老板约好, 三月二号(星期天)下午2:00 大家在琴店定价钱,定付款方式和一切相关事宜.请准时到场.这个时间不再变了.
                                                    琴店地址;
                                                    Thornhill
                                                    (West of Yonge Street)
                                                    100 Steeles Avenue West
                                                    Thornhill, Ontario
                                                    L4J 1A1
                                                    Phone: (905) 731 7725
                                                    Fax: (905) 731-4516
                                                    Email:victor@yamahamusiccentre.com

                                                    琴店网址

                                                    http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/contact.asp

                                                    yamaha 公司网址:

                                                    http://www.yamahamusiccentre.com/yamahapiano_u1.asp
                                                    • YAHAHA Brand New Piano Series Number
                                                      Dear all:

                                                      I just talk to YAAMAHA company, they said once we get Brend-New U1 piano, please
                                                      contact to their office ASAP in Email,Tel or in person.
    • 为啥不考虑买个二手琴呢?5、6年甚至十来年的琴私售可以便宜很多,只要不是用的特狠(比如用来教琴、学琴的)一般不会有问题,如果自己不懂可以花钱请专家去帮你试。另外,旧琴多数全部工序都是原厂完成,而新琴绝大多数不是原厂产。
      • ths issue upto to you and your family.
        • 看了你给yamaha的信,估计你对钢琴不是那么了解,新yamaha多数是在日本组装,部件多数在中国做(珠江);新琴肯定是需要去掉包装的,因为同型号的琴音质也有分别,因此买琴必须试,琴的音质决定琴的保值能力,专家一出手就知道了。
          • 你说的是买旧琴吧.如果是去琴店想买新琴,你要挑也只是挑MODEL而不会是就买那FLOOR MODEL.这跟买新车试车一样.
            • 当然是新琴,旧琴最好买人家的私售(琴行的旧琴太多猫腻,没经验最好别碰)每次不会超过一个选择。新琴一般同型号的不可能只有一台选择。买琴不是买电视、不是买车,同样的琴音质千差万别,音质不好质量恐怕也好不了!同时影响琴的保值能力!
    • 看贴看得有点眼晕,不过新琴在到顾客家前,dealer不是应该有pre-service吗?哪怕YAMAHA是一种质量监控很好的琴,pre-service也应该是必需的吧?建议大家买琴前做一做homework, 有一本书叫<Piano Book>, 图书馆应该就有,专门有讲YAMAHA,读一读很有好处的.
      • you are right.
        before you get the Brabd-New piano, you do not know the series number even the dealer, I said ,ONCE you get you piano, you open your piano, you will find the series number, and you can find another number in your piano, that is a made in month and year number.
        • There's nothing about serial number, I'm talking about the adjusting & tuning services dealer has to do before delivering a new piano to customer. My point is How it's possible for a dealer to do this work without opening the pack?
          • 你说的对,包装肯定是要拆开的,不然没法试,不试怎么能知道音质,没有好音质琴就不值钱。不过tuning应该在琴delivery放到适当位置一个月后做。
          • so do we suppose to get the pre-delivery services if we request when we make a deal with the dealship?
      • 新琴运到家里装好后DEALER会有人免费上门调琴,不知道是不是你说的pre-service.
        • 新琴运到家里装好后DEALER会有人免费上门调琴 十年保修+送琴+一次调音,
          • Dear all: thanks very much, please give us more detail question and we talk to dealer wirh confidence. The more question you ask, the more better for us to buy.
            • 集思广议, 人多智慧多.
              • 太好了, 希望大家多提些问题, 对我们太有帮助了.去买之前, 最好把能想到的问题都提出来,那怕你不买琴或已经买了.问题越多对我们越有帮助.
          • I do not agree you. what Amigoo sid is correct: 不试怎么能知道音质,没有好音质琴就不值钱。tuning is just to adjust the tune, and tiny things.
          • if the 音质s not good, that will cost you A LOT! if do you adjust the 音质,that piano is just a garbage.
      • 新琴在卖出前,DEALER的技师要把琴打开,全面检查,做必要的调整,如HAMMER, DAMPER等等, 有的要做REGULATION, TUNING只是其中的一项. 所以新琴不应该是出厂后就送到顾客家的, 一定要在DEALER那里打开调试,注意,不是仅仅调音.
        • 好像是这样的,我今天去看了HAWAI 琴,他们也是这样说的。我想订HAWAI了,48‘ 的琴包税4700。估计价格还能下点吧。44“的3000+。反正孩子也没什么音乐天才,买个新的心里蹋实。买旧的猫力太多。YAMAHA又年年涨价。真累啊。
          • 这是个什么牌子的琴,是不是珠江?
            • kawai,不好意思打错了。自己不懂音乐,
              • 请问你是在NEW MARKET的DEALER那看的吗?
                • yes
                  • 请问是什么型号的?
                    • 应该是KX-21.
                      • 我已经买了k3,听dealer说kx-21是中国制造,所以便宜。
                        • 没错,多数日本品牌Made in China;那些Assembly in Japan的多数部件也来自中国。欧洲品牌的琴基本在东欧做,相对造钢琴技术应该比亚洲或者中国好点。俺买琴前做了不少功课,看过不少琴,那些五六十年甚至更高年份的老琴仍然相当值钱就是因为
                          当时的材料、手工比现在的好很多,加上保养得当。最后俺买的是一手琴主的私售Yamaha三角琴6“跟LZ的U1价钱相当。
                          • 感觉你是自己懂琴,比较专业.我们昨天大伙里最专业的是一个7-8岁的小MM,经她试弹了U1后赞不绝口,所以大家决定买了.
                            • 看大家想买琴根据自己的经验给大家点参考,小MM自己满意就没啥可说的了,Yamaha肯定是好琴。
            • 不是珠江,听说珠江卖3000左右。只是听说,不准
              • 啊!这个KAWAI比YAMAHA便宜那么多.音色和YAMAHA比有什么不同.
                • HAMMER, DAMPER REGULATION, TUNING Action Regulation and Voicing
                  本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1.Down pay: 10%.
                  2.Delivery: Door delivery buy seller
                  3.Technical service: HAMMER, DAMPER REGULATION, TUNING (in dealer or at customers’ home, discuss between buyer and seller)
                  4.New piano has original packing, case delivery to buyer (select by customer)
                  5. Open case at buyer’s home (select by customer)
                  6. In delivery day, buyer has right at Yamaha warehouse (select by customer)
                  7.Mover could move the unit to the site by buyer’s mean
                  8.New piano tool (must)
                  10.10 years warrantee (must)
                  11. Brand new piano HAMMER, DAMPER REGULATION, TUNING (must)
                  12.Seller must guarantee HAMMER, DAMPER REGULATION, TUNING up to Yamaha U1brand new Level
                  13.Buyer need get Yamaha export of origin, from seller. Series No# and date, year should matched.
                  14. Made in time from June 2007 to December 2007.
                  15. Buyer pay the rest 90% (buy seller and buyer)
                  16. Credit card or other payment (buyer and seller)



                  Action Regulation and Voicing
                  HAMMER, DAMPER REGULATION, TUNING

                  This is the final stage of the manufacturing of a piano. Piano hammers, in spite of being made from the best wool obtainable, and produced under exacting control will vary slightly in density and hardness. This variance is corrected by the use of fine steel needles inserted into the hammers at the proper place and the proper depth. By "needling" a piano hammer, the tone regulator can make the tone of an individual note sound hard, mellow, full or thin. This fine adjustment is called voicing. The end result is tonal balance and an instrument with a full rich tone.

                  Action regulation is done by skilled technicians at the factory, and consists of minute adjustments throughout all the critical points in the action to insure that each and every key and action assembly performs exactly as it is designed to do to ensure evenness throughout the full range of the keyboard.

                  The finest piano manufacturers spend a great deal of time and attention to this process with their skilled regulators and voicers. Manufacturers of lesser quality pianos spend very little time in the voicing and regulating process.

                  Final preparation of the piano before it leaves the factory is one of the many differences between pianos of differing quality. In the factory, final preparation of the piano includes such things as several tunings, action regulation, and voicing. And finally, before delivery, preparation by the dealer's technicians of the instrument should be done to ensure that the piano is at its very best when it arrives at your home.


                  Tuning a tuning sets the "correct" pitch.
                  Technically speaking, when a piano is in tune, it is perfectly out of tune. This is the result of the process of finding a "happy medium” between the various intervals. To illustrate, when a string player plays out of tune, he can just slide his finger up and down the string until he finds the right note. On a piano, however, the length of the strings is fixed and between each half step are all kinds of natural tones. To circumvent this limit in piano technology, the olden tuners in the days of Bach came up with what is called the "temperament". To prove the point that it was possible to play the piano in any key without having to retune the instrument, Bach composed the "Wahl Temperament Clavier". However, even so, in Bach's days the temperament sounded rather different than a modern temperament. Just listen to an old Baroque organ and you will hear the difference. It's rather interesting, though.
                  Most pianos need tuning at least once a year. To offset temperature and humidity changes from season to season, we recommend tuning pianos every 6 months. In very humid climates, along the ocean, or areas with large temperature and humidity changes we recommend the installation of a Damp-Chaser heating rod to a) prolong the life of the tuning, b) to protect the soundboard from absorbing excessive humidity, and c) the strings from rusting prematurely.
                  Please keep in mind that it has to be absolutely quiet in the house to be able to get a good tuning. Do your piano tuner the favor and plan to wait with your dishes, laundry, vacuuming, lawn mowing, leaf blowing, disciplining the children, babysitting, singing, humming, whistling, TV and parties until the work is done.

                  Filing And Voicing Of The Hammers A voicing optimizes the sound of a piano.
                  New piano hammers have typically been pre-voiced by the manufacturer and fine-voiced by the technicians of the various piano dealers. However, the market price of an instrument is critical in the dealer's decision to have a certain instrument voiced or not. For example: the profit margin of an inexpensive, mass produced, piano may be so small, that it is often not feasible for a piano dealer to invest a few hundred dollars into such a piano and be able to sell at rock-bottom price, while a similar investment into a $50,000 Steinway. Bechstein or Boesendorfer is negligible. In the case of a low-cost piano it is typically up to the buyer to pay for the work and to turn a "cheap" piano into a decent, well sounding piano.
                  Please keep in mind that the tone of a new piano can in most cases be changed within reason. The voicing is also influenced by personal taste and market demand. For example: the local Yamaha dealers tend to voice their instruments rather brightly, which some performers enjoy, while others don't. Similarly, the local piano dealers urge the technicians to voice their instruments "down" because they cannot sell "bright" instruments in the local market. However, German made pianos, especially Hamburg Steinways, are intended to have a beautifully brilliant bright and open tone. Hence I am always surprised to hear a customer say he doesn't like the German Steinway tone. Personally I cringe when I am called to "ruin" a perfect instrument - however, one can not argue about taste.
                  Over time the striking point of piano hammers become hardened from the constant impact against the string. This will make the tone very hard or tinny. If the instrument is not voiced at this time, the hammer often deteriorates over the years and the tone becomes mushy in addition to tinny, which produces for an awful combination. In any case, as the piano gets older and the grooves in the hammers become deeper, the hammers should be filed, ironed and voiced. This two hour job is rather dusty because the wool dust from the hammers will settle over everything in the room, no matter what precautions we take. If you want to have this work done, we can do it either on a nice day outside your home, in our shop, or in your home prior to the arrival of your cleaning lady.
                  If you have a very fine piano and are an accomplished pianist, it may be of advantage to you to be present during the final voicing of your instrument to give the piano builder some feedback as to your taste. However, in this case, please stand behind the technician and not in the curve of the piano or perhaps in the kitchen, because in such a case a miscommunications would be guaranteed as the tone in front of the keyboard is different than at any other place in the room or house.

                  Regulation A regulation make a piano play right.
                  Most pianos have been regulated to some extend by the manufacturer and it therefore not necessary to perform a major regulation in the field, unless it is necessary to install new hammers and/or whippens in a piano.
                  The regulation process is meticulous and thus time consuming. It includes the adjustment of the "Spreitze" to the proper height in order for the jack to fall back under the knuckle after it accelerates the hammer. It is also very important to set the jack properly under the knuckle in order to get the maximum "power transfer" of the key into the hammer. If the knuckle is too far to the front of the knuckle it may strike without moving the hammer. On the other hand, if it is too far to the rear of the knuckle, the pianist may lose the "touch" altogether. In a properly adjusted action, the hammer should let-off (reach it's high point when pressed slowly) about 1 1/2 to 2 millimeters under the string and should fall back about 2 millimeters. In addition, the playing depth of the keys should be adjusted that there is a proper "aftertouch". "Aftertouch is a misnomer as it consists of the various steps to bring the various parts of a piano action into proper relationship. In any case, each key should play exactly like the other keys. Only then can a pianist rely on his instrument.
                  There are several other steps involved in the regulation process of a piano, but I consider it unwise to reveal here all my "trade secret" acquired over the last 35 years to get the maximum performance out of a piano action. Each piano is different and each manufacturer has somewhat different specifications, but an older instrument or a mass-produced piano is vastly different from a modern Steinway concert grand. After working with literally thousands of pianos it became second nature to obtain the best results for each individual piano.
                  The typical feedback I receive from customers after a tuning, voicing and regulation is the amazement that their piano could sound and play "like that". All pianos suffer from wear over time, which is so gradual, that most people don't notice it. However, a good tuning, voicing and regulation becomes immediately apparent.
                  Technical Things
                  When you begin your personal inspection of the piano you are thinking of buying, look at some of the technical aspects of the piano design so you can compare "apples with apple".
                  Start with the back. there will be five or six vertical posts that serve as stays against the frame, giving added strength to resist the tremendous pull of the strings inside. The posts should be heavy and strong enough to provide adequate support in proportion to the rest of the piano.
                  Next, check the soundboard, a wooden board at the back that translates the vibrations of the strings into the "tone" of the piano. The soundboard is one of the vital parts of the piano, and is is made of spruce in many top-quality instruments. The fine, straight grain in spruce is ideal for conducting sound.The ribs on the back of the soundboard should run from one edge of the soundboard to the other for support.
                  Inspect the plate - an irregularly-shaped piece of cast iron bolted to the back of the frame. It holds one end of the piano strings, and anchors most of the 18 to 20 tons of pull exerted by the taut piano strings.
                  The treble and bass bridges are another of the piano's vital organs. These long pieces of hard maple are attached to the soundboard, transferring the vibrations of the string to the soundboard.The bass strings are wound with wire to add weight and reduce the frequency at which the string vibrates. This allows the use of relatively shorter string to produce deeper notes.
                  At the top of the plate, the strings are wound through and around tuning pins. These are set into the pin block, constructed of layers of carefully seasoned hard wood which grips the pins in place for tuning stability.
                  The working section of the piano is called the action. There are inbetween 7,500 and 9,000 parts here, all playing a role in sending the hammers against the strings when keys are struck.Grand pianos all have horizontal action, and upright pianos have vertical action. There are two kinds of vertical action--"direct-blow," which pushes the mechanism that controls the hammer, found in taller pianos; and "indirect-blow" or "drop" action, which pulls the mechanism in lower silhouette instruments.
                  Piano hammers are formed of one or two layers of felt forged onto the wooden hammer molding under tremendous pressure. If a dealer talks to you about a 9-pound hammer as opposed to a 12-pound hammer, hemeans the weight of the sheets of felt that were used to make the hammers.
                  By the time you see the piano in the showroom, it has been tuned at the factory several times, starting with the "chip" or rough tuning before the mechanism is even locked into the cabinet. The last fine adjustment, called "voicing," includes the regulation of the hammer felts for individual notes.
                  Now, you can take your head out of the inside of the piano, and consider the externals again.
                  The piano keys rest in the key bed, a perfectly flat well in the front of the cabinet that keeps the keys level. Each key is balanced by a center pin, and "bushed" with fine wool for silence and proper clearance. The "ivories" are rarely ivory anymore, but a fine molded plastic that won't crack or turn yellow. The black keys are made of a similar material.
                  Most pianos have three pedals, but most pianists need only two. The sustaining, or damper pedal on the right lifts the dampers (which in a resting position prevent the strings from vibrating) away from the strings so that the tone is sustained after the keys are released. The pedal on the left, called ulna coda mutes the tone by shortening the distance the hammers travel or by shifting the action slightly so fewer strings are hit. Many pianos have a third pedal for sustaining bass tones only, On most grand pianos and some uprights, the third pedal is a sustention, which sustains selected tone sat the pianist's discretion.
                  Finally, there's the cabinet, that handsome piece of furniture that will take a prominent place in your decor. Modern cabinets are made of core stock overlaid with thin veneers of fine furniture wood. Many grains and finishes are available and modern finishing techniques assure excellent appearance and easy care for years.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                  • 感谢大家互相帮助,互相支持,拿到琴后请立刻与yamaha公司联系,确任序列号. 祝大家生活幸福,永远快乐.
                    Jun Fujimoto, B.Mus. M.Mus, A.R.C.T
                    Piano Marketing Specialist / Artist and Institution Relations
                    PIANO DEPARTMENT, MI GROUP
                    YAMAHA CANADA MUSIC Ltd.
                    135 Milner Avenue, Toronto, ON, CANADA M1S 3R1
                    T. 647-426-4218 / F. 416-292-0732
                    E. jfujimoto@yamaha.ca
                    W. www.yamaha.ca
                    • 感谢David为大家做了个good deal.我们今天最后拿到的价钱是7850, U1.希望以后要买的人能拿到更好的DEAL.
                      • That is a good deal I believe,although I didn't join this group purchase event, but I am very appreciate David, he has provided a lot of effort for us. Thanks a lot!!
                        • 感谢大家,感谢与我一起买琴的家庭.
                          感谢大家,正是我们的团结与真诚才拿到了这样的价格.
                          再次谢谢大家.
                • yamaha 音色亮一点,kawaii柔一点。我也是外行,我听kx-21没有k3好,同样是48''的琴。
    • 最后的结论是什么?买了吗?多少钱?怎么送到家(有无包装?)其他主要条款?
    • 你们有人想到过去老美搬个STEINWAY