Topic: In TORONTO, earning 85K annually, got　９０Ｋ　offer in NY, shall go for this offer? Please advise, very appriciate of any comments. @卡尔加里华人论坛:卡尔加里枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of Calgary

枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / In TORONTO, earning 85K annually, got　９０Ｋ　offer in NY, shall go for this offer? Please advise, very appriciate of any comments. -dop(道听途说); 2006-1-22 (#2737924@0)

No. the living cost there is way higher than in Toronto -tuber(曹操); 2006-1-22 (#2738078@0)
No way. If it's in NTC, you should ask for at least 110k with relocation bonus -icrecream2005(icrecream2005); 2006-1-22 (#2738097@0)

Sorry I meant NYC, as suppose to NY state -icrecream2005(icrecream2005); 2006-1-22 (#2738102@0)

Think it over. NYC is one-and-only city. At least you should go there and live for a few months. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-24 (#2743449@0)

It depends on you. If you think you still have much potential to promote yourself in the future. Choose NYC, otherwise, stay in Canada -wuwu2005(wuwu2005); 2006-1-22 (#2738733@0)
Is it true that sometimes, opportunities are more important than money? -tomhelp(lucky number); 2006-1-22 (#2738756@0)
Well if you really like the big apple, go ahead and take the pay cut... -ztech(￥); 2006-1-22 (#2738761@0)

Why not. 90K USD in NYC is not bad. I don't think living expense in NYC is much higher than that in Toronto.NYC is much more exciting.. And tax rate is lower there. But above all, career is much more important than money at this level. -zdq(zdq); 2006-1-23 {128} (#2739167@0)

Anyone lived in NYC knows the cost of living is a lot higher. Accorind to to THE INTERNATIONAL SALARY CALCULATOR: 85k in Toronto is about 138k in NYC. Check it out...http://www.homefair.com/homefair/servlet/ActionServlet?pid=246&previousPage=245&cid=homefair&fromSalary=85000&fromCity=199&toCity=718 -icrecream2005(icrecream2005); 2006-1-23 {133} (#2739438@0)
纽约的东西很贵的，中餐的东西按票面算都比多伦多贵1.5到2倍。而且纽约市的市税很高。90K在纽约基本上不能住曼哈顿了，新泽西、皇后区、布鲁克林区什么的还凑合。其实如果想去的，多少钱都去，为了钱，美国没有什么地方比多伦多好的。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-24 (#2741967@0)

Could you pls post any good chinese website for NYC. Thx. -roseh(rose); 2006-1-24 (#2742564@0)
"为了钱，美国没有什么地方比多伦多好的" I don't think so. -zdq(zdq); 2006-1-26 (#2746243@0)

美国的税费和加拿大不相上下，“高收入”的边际税率比加拿大高得多。而且作为外国人的加拿大人可供避税的途径不多(要考虑居留的问题)。在加拿大，至少10几w一年不用交税是很平常的事情。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-26 (#2746435@0)

are you out of your mind? or just entertain us -boringcrazy(boringcrazy); 2006-1-26 (#2746822@0)
I want to know how, especially the tax season is comming.. Seriously, I want to save some tax. -zdq(zdq); 2006-1-26 (#2746967@0)

多伦多的地税很低，公共服务发达。房价适中。公有医疗体系。在美国即使有医疗保险，付deductible也很容易有上千元的情况，特别是有小孩(不是什么都保的)。而且看病每次自付几十元诊金是平常的事情。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-26 (#2746444@0)
美联储的政策核心是刺激经济，加拿大央行则是控制通货膨胀，因此美国的通胀率和加拿大比居高不下，每格两三年过去看一次就会发现美国的物价牌在不断的变，加拿大通常变化都很小。美国人工资涨得快，也是通货膨胀的一个反映。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-26 (#2746473@0)

Why I feel most items in US is cheaper?For example: grocery, car, gas, computer related and electritions, even house in most place (compared with the price in Toronto). -zdq(zdq); 2006-1-26 {129} (#2746769@0)

我承认美国的物价比加拿大便宜而且服务好。但我说的是通胀，意思是这几年美国的东西没有前几年便宜了。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-27 (#2749020@0)

LOL.. now, I think you are joking here -boringcrazy(boringcrazy); 2006-1-26 (#2746826@0)

美国人的“高收入”和加拿大(安大略)比，很大程度上是因为工作时间长。像很多公司的公司文化就是13小时乘7的，还要算加班工资(1.5)，可怜俺一周才工作35小时。单位生产率两国之间的差距不大。如果项目经费充裕，加班频繁，很多在多论多的朋友一个月拿上w的都很多。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-26 {67} (#2746480@0)

I never worked that long in US.You are right, some people can earn 100k easily in Canada, but can't get that much in US, due to the lack of citizenship. But for most people, the average salary in US is still better, even taking the live expense into consideration. NYC is another special case too, but to claim no any place in US is better than Toronto is just funny. -zdq(zdq); 2006-1-26 {340} (#2746782@0)
yes, cadlic is funny guy!yes, cadlic is funny guy! I am working in US, much higher salary, much lower expense. for exp: 2 bedroom aprtment in nicest community is $600, and $60.00 for 2 car insurance. And by tthe way, I never work any overtime in US so far -boringcrazy(boringcrazy); 2006-1-26 {230} (#2746834@0)

two beds for only $600? Where do you live?? Mississippi?? In my city (MN), it will cost about $800 to $1000 -wireless_mouse(无线小滑鼠); 2006-1-26 (#2746841@0)

Not really. It's 45F today, feels like a day in April. TX is too hot, though...:)) Plus, I don't like southern accent. -wireless_mouse(无线小滑鼠); 2006-1-26 (#2746862@0)

俺鼓励朋友去美国，也鼓励朋友在加拿大，也鼓励朋友回流。在这个问题上俺没有既定的立场。把好坏都列出来，每个人面对机会都可以自己判断了。 -cadillac(Caddy); 2006-1-27 (#2748841@0)

I am living in NYC now and lived in Toronto before, compared with the salaries , there is no too much difference,maybe 90k<85k However there is a lot of difference in living style between these two cities. -42channel(Channel); 2006-1-24 (#2742814@0)

Could you mind detailing the difference? Thanks in advance. -dop(道听途说); 2006-1-25 (#2744338@0)
Could you pls post any good chinese website in NYC? Thank you . -roseh(rose); 2006-1-26 (#2746249@0)
Hi Channel, any debate on . #2746480? thanks -baring(无风); 2006-1-26 (#2746502@0)
我打字比较慢，所以就大概写写了，是我个人感受 -42channel(Channel); 2006-1-26 {974} (#2746837@0)

If I were you , I will chose come to US. Money is not issue, you will get much better one shortly. -boringcrazy(boringcrazy); 2006-1-26 (#2746854@0)
在纽约自己买医疗保险,每月的费用大约是多少美元? -newgreentea(馨); 2006-2-6 (#2766879@0)
I don't understand why people ask will apple taste better than banana or the other way around. For career development, come to NY. For family life, stay in Canada -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2006-2-7 (#2768194@0)

I think you shoud go to The States, not only for your career development but also for your life.Good luck. -jackie690301(baobao); 2006-2-13 (#2780765@0)

@Calgary